Wednesday, November 29, 2006

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

The things I found most interesting in this collection are:

The idea of superiority in relationships, be they male to male or male to female.

Pain, physical or mental, and how it shapes a personality

Escape, is it inherent in humans to desire escape at some point in their lives.

Posting for Heather Herrick

Page 53, "The past is in us, and not behind us. Things are never over."
How does Winton emphasize time and the past in his stories.
How does this idea play out in the story "Damaged Goods."
Page 87, "I have fantasies about a little house...something clear and clean, somewhere I can start again from scratch...But there's no where I can really do that. Everywhere you go there'll be some link."
How does the story "The Turning" fit with the two above quotes? Does its conclusion present a different point of view about the past?

Posting for Lindsey Welker

A couple discussion topics I was thinking about were gender roles and the power struggle between them, Winton's portrayal of 'country life,' and his use of imagery and the underlying issues alluded to.

Discussion points for The Turning

-Broken Homes: missing fathers, runaway children, etc...
-The need for escape: is this just the vacumn of people leaving small town Australia for the larger metropolitan areas, or is this a deeper rooted need?
-Water, baby: Winton's stories all occur in these small fishing communities, so obviously fishing is rooted in the culture. We also see, though, water coming into play as a means of solace, comfort, and escape.
-Loyalty: as seen in friendship and love, for better or worse.

Location in the Turning

Tim Winton's constant use of the same narrow locations for his collection of short stories seems to be of importance, as there are only a few locations that are explored in depth; ie: Angelus, White Point etc. How does this effect character development, plot development and how does it tie the stories together? Also the placement of the stories in time seems to play as important a role as does physical location, does this effect character development and how we are to perceive them/ how we do perceive them?

The Turning Discussion

so much to do so little time.

a few things about the Turning:

the fasination which the female body
male female relationships
the need or want to escape the past
dreams of a future not fulfilled

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

Discussion Topics - The Turning

-Could the points of self- discovery and loss in the characters mark the stage of maturity or metamorphosis into manhood/adulthood?

-Mother/son relationship with the absence of a father

-Is the degree of egotism, or selfishness in the main characters rational or irrational, and to what extent does it affect the people around them?

-How is the idea of love portrayed in the first half of these short stories?

Discussion Topics- The Turning

  • Winton's use of random, often times bizarre encounters, to establish relationships and connections in his characters.
  • The physical and emotional process of escaping from and returning to one's own past.
  • The idea that the past is never behind us but rather in us. (pg. 53)
  • Winton's use of music as a way of coping (Fox playing the one drone note, the church music heard in the Larwood house pg. 116).

Discussion topics & Interesting Themes

  • Especially in Winton, Identity seems to come up often, and can prove very fruitful in discussion.
  • Addiction
  • 'Progression' relative to expansion of suburban life, and the affect that has on all parts of Australian culuture.

Discussion Questions

-How does the organization contribute to the book
-Why the title The Turning
-Relationships: male-female, small town, failed
-How does this compare to Dirt Music

Discussion Topics | Kim Stroud

Discussion Topics for The Turning

-Vastness/Emptiness
-Search for Identity
-Small Town Relationships
-Relationships between men and women
-Power of Addiction
-Recovery
-Unsatisfied Life

Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Class Discussion Topics

-The transition from child to adult
-Failed relationships
-Why is the book titled The Turning? Does the title story give enough insight to this?
-Returning to the past
-Addiction, both chemical and physical
-Escaping the past
-Looking to the future

Class Discussion Topics

1. How does "Aquifer" relate with the other stories?
2. Are these characters typical middle class Australians?
3. Why do the characters seem to want/need to escape?
4. Do White Pointe and Angelus have something to escape from - these names are frequently used.
5. Are characters trying to escape the land itself?
6. At this point do we know why the book is called The Turning?

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

1. How does "Aquifer" relate with the other stories?
2. Are these characters typical middle class Australians?
3. Why do the characters seem to want/need to escape?
4. Do White Pointe and Angelus have something to escape from - they are typically used in Winton's stories?
5. Are characters trying to escape the land itself?
6. Do we know why the book is called The Turning at this point?

Turning topics|Mercado

1. "lighting out for the territory" as a form of self discovery
2. turning points in life
3. winesburg, australia
4. alcoholism
5. who's story is this?

Discussion for Class

1. "Aquifer" doesn't seem like the other stories, how does it relate in this book?
2. At this point do we know why the book is entitled The Turning?
3. Do all the characters so far seem to be the typical middle class in Australia?
4. Why does Winton use White Pointe and Angelus so often for the names of the towns?
5. Why the sense of wanting/needing to escape?

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature _Chelsi Grant
Topics I think would be interesting:
- The fascination with the female body
-Young males in many of these stories, how they are similar/ different and what they add to the stories.
- Obsession, with people, places, ideas, material possessions
- Social class, power or lack there of

Monk's Wintonian Topics

Ok...its 29 degrees outside...my home to campus bike ride has filled my hair (what's left of it) with static cling but I'm coffee-ed up and armed with a fussilade of topics:

1) Breast Worship: a compulsive young male hero adventure (24, 32, 33, 48, 76, 78, 85, 125, 128, 138)

2) What men want from women and what women want from men (88, 146, 152, 155)

3) The limitations of mateship (5, 6, 11)

4) The uni and the city as the evil "turn coat" empire (4-5)

5) "If it doesn't hurt, it's not important" (26)

6) Going on the bum or getting the f--- outta here as a path to self investigation and individuation (1-15, 71, 75, 127, 130)

7) Short memory is the Australian's best friend (68)

8) Significance of remembering what the weight, smell and touch of another adult body is or feels like (74)

9) "Return of the whales" as a metaphor of communal / social / familial health (78, 92, 115)

10) The rich are always on top and the poor can't fight back (101-12)

11) The ephemeral reigns of troubled, individuated, solitary matriarchs...Agnes, the fish spear goddess (101-12, 130, 131, 140, 157, 160)

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Charmian Clift Interesting Links

Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Prevalent Themes in Australian Literature

Identity
Landscape
Urban and bucolic literature
Mateship
Feminism
Aboriginality and multiculturalism
Entrapment/Escape
Ineffective father figures
External and internal worlds (landscapes)
History
Small town as microcosm of world
Nature (weather, beach, sea)
Geographical Location/Isolation
Vastness/Emptiness

**For next week: Add to this list by bringing to class your own list. Be prepared to discuss/defend your choices. Also, I should be able to respond to your responses by Sunday--one thing to consider for next week's response: Where might you go that you haven't been before? (That's not a Cancun or Paris question, but an intellectual consideration.)

Thursday, October 05, 2006

MLA: One more time!

Always introduce the author/title along with a brief plot synopsis

Titles of longer works (novels) are italicized; Shorter works are in quotation marks

Incorporate signal phrases with appropriate signal verbs:

Parenthetical citation follows the sentence, regardless of where "the quote" appears in the text (91).

Please note that only page numbers are used and that the punctuation follows the parentheses.

If a long quote is used (4 lines or longer), please use long quotation format: indent 2 tabs, no quotation marks, period precedes par. citation. (91)

Double space everything

Times New Roman, Helvetica, Garamond, Courier fonts 12 pt.

Finally, spell check, please

Partners for Next Week

Game Plan:

1. Tuesday evening by 10 pm: E-mail your partner your response
& CC me jilltalbot1@boisestate.edu

2. For class on Wednesday: Revise your response after reading partner's response

Ryan Smith: jedisansmi@aol.com
Clark VanVooren: carloray@hotmail.com

Shane Muir: muir.shane@gmail.com
Daniel Mercado: danielmercado@mail.boisestate.edu

Monk: monksricebowl@yahoo.com
Don Farr: farr.don@gmail.com

Heather Herrick: hkherrick@yahoo.com
Lindsey Welker: lwelker@albertson.edu

Shaun Whitney: euphoricwisdom@yahoo.com
Jamie Hillman-Leathers: jamiehillman@mail.boisestate.edu

Aimee Vogt: tigerlily_alv@yahoo.com
Heather Coberly: heathercoberly@mail.boisestate.edu

Angelie Hobson: angelie_1414@yahoo.com
Stephanie Young: vicious1251@hotmail.com

Amy Meiser: silversand1975@yahoo.com
Kim Stroud: kimstroud@mail.boisestate.edu

Malinda Cantrell: malindakcantrell@yahoo.com
Jesse Bynum: clearmidnight@gmail.com

Chelsi Grant: chelsigrant@msn.com
Crystal Young: bruja_cly@yahoo.com

Wednesday, October 04, 2006

Carey's Voice in "True History"--Smith

The short article i found discusses the language used in the novel The True History of the Kelly Gang and whether or not the author's voice is predominantly heard throughout the novel as opposed to the novel being a "true" telling of history in Ned Kelly's own voice.

Taylor, D.J. "A Ventriloquists Tale." New Statesman 130 (2001): 42. Rpt. in Contemporary Literary Criticism. Ed. Tom Burns & Jeffery W. Hunter. Vol. 183. Detroit: Gale, 2002. 41-42.

Tuesday, October 03, 2006

The Morning News with Peter Carey

This interview talks about Carey's writing, private schooling and boredom. I found this interview given by Birnbaum on The Morning News. Enjoy :)
http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/personalities/birnbaum_v_peter_carey.php

Jamie

Interviews with Carey

I wanted to find something personal in the Kelly Gang. Something that related specifically to Carey's life. I found two interviews with Carey. One can be found at powells.com and the other was recorded in Good Morning News. It is interesting because Carey discusses exactly what we discussed in class last week; that Australia is not familiar with success. Its familiarity lies in failure.

Ned Kelly Died for our Sins

Ned Kelly Died for our Sins
Deborah Bird Rose
Oceania
Vol. 65, No. 2, pp. 175-86, December 1994

Ned Kelly and Jesus, equal salvific identities in Aboriginal mythology. Ned Kelly as moral, creative, redemptive messiah, a champion of the dispossessed and land orphans. Ned is the moral European, healing the interstice or chasm between colonizer and colonized. Ned dies for our sins; and Ned is killed by Captain Cook the embodiment of immorality in Aboriginal mythology. This is archetype city!

Good Reading! Honor bright!

Steven the monk

English 413: Contemporary Australian Literature

Robin Hood of the Outback

Robin Hood of the Outback
By ANTHONY QUINN
TRUE HISTORY OF THE KELLY GANG By Peter Carey. 352 pp. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. $25.
PETER CAREY, digging away at the past, is one of fiction's great treasure hunters. His best work combines Victorian grandeur and Australian earthiness, from the tall tales of a 139-year-old con man in ''Illywhacker'' through the tragicomedy of gamblers and glass churches in ''Oscar and Lucinda'' to the Dickensian sweep of London high and low life in ''Jack Maggs.'' These books are notable for a deft manipulation of mood, swaying between the fantastical and the realistic, the grotesque and the matter-of-fact, the serious and the playful, a medley that seems of a piece with Carey's satirical yet forgiving overview. They are also, despite their period settings, intellectually modern novels; reading them, one never loses the sense of a late-20th-century affability and insight beneath the 19th-century furnishings.
Carey's latest book is bolder and more challenging than anything he has attempted before. ''True History of the Kelly Gang'' isn't merely a historical novel; it's a fully imagined act of historical impersonation. It purports to be the confession of the outlaw Ned Kelly, whose name in his native Australia carries the sort of thrilling resonances that his contemporary Jesse James enjoys in the United States. (James and Kelly died within two years of each other.) Practically the only thing non-Australians know about Kelly is that he went about his business with his head encased in an iron helmet. (And perhaps a few others recall that Tony Richardson directed Mick Jagger in an unremarkable biopic of the outlaw in 1970.) Carey's novel is a thoroughly researched portrait, but it's also a corrective to the popular conception -- even among some Australians -- of Kelly as a thug, thief and murderer. The Ned Kelly of this account is nothing less than a folk hero and freedom fighter, a defiant exemplar of Irish-Australian cussedness in the face of colonial oppression.
The form and style of the novel could hardly be more striking. Couched as a rough-hewn apologia drawn from 13 parcels of dogeared papers Kelly has written while on the run, ''True History'' is dedicated to the infant daughter he has yet to see and, he promises, contains ''no single lie may I burn in Hell if I speak false.'' He hopes that he will live ''to see you read these words to witness your astonishment and see your dark eyes widen and your jaw drop when you finally comprehend the injustice we poor Irish suffered in this present age.''
One's own eyes widen a little as this strange narrative unfolds in a prose that seems initially to be as untidy and agrammatical as subway graffiti. As we adjust to the raggedly punctuated flow, however, Kelly's voice develops into an expansive and malleable instrument, bristling with shafts of wit and poetic grace notes. And because this story is intended for the innocent eyes of his daughter, its prose maintains an odd, disarming chasteness even in moments of stress, as when Ned's mother rails against her harsh treatment at the hands of the authorities: ''She used many rough expressions I will not write them here. . . . She would blow their adjectival brains out.'' (''Adjectival'' is Ned's delicate substitute for something more explicit, and thus perhaps the most frequently used word in the whole book.)
Carey presents the territory of northeast Victoria in the 1860's and 70's as scourged by outrageous poverty and harshness. Ned, born of immigrant Irish stock, grows up adoring his fiery-tempered mother, Ellen, whose life is a continual war of provocation with her feckless husband and the ''traps'' (police constables) who persecute her kinfolk. Ned's early years are haunted by dreadful suspicions about his convict father's shadowy past in Ireland, centering upon the discovery of a dress whose significance is only explained some 250 pages later. ''I lost my own father from a secret he might as well been snatched by a roiling river fallen from a ravine I lost him from my heart so long I cannot even now properly make the place for him that he deserves.'' There is something of Dickens in the pathos of Ned's school days. Mocked behind his back for being barefoot and rated by his own schoolmaster as ''a notch beneath the cattle,'' as were all ''micks,'' he is nevertheless desperate to be appointed the class ink monitor. Indeed, Dickens might have created Ned himself, such is the heroic force of his character: he is resourceful, sensitive, loyal and brave, never more so than when he rescues a schoolmate from drowning. The father of the boy presents him with a ''peacock green'' sash in gratitude: ''The Protestants of Avenel had seen the goodness in an Irish boy it were a mighty moment in my early life.''
Ned's courage and nobility of spirit become the rocks on which this story is founded, a circumstance that occasionally prompts the reader to wonder if Carey, in trying to redress received opinion, has to some degree idealized his subject. While Ned himself never protests as much, his life for the most part seems entirely blameless. Apprenticed under duress to the bush ranger Harry Power, he is virtually kidnapped into a life of crime: ''The boy never knew he were being taught the path of his life.'' Having escaped, he receives a less than heartfelt welcome from his mother, who, it turns out, has sold him into Power's service. He is then made a scapegoat among his own kin on the false charge of betraying Power.
In and out of prison for most of his teenage years, Ned turns to horse stealing and, later, bank robbing, but only because his family has been continually hounded and traduced by the authorities. Be it a perfidious constable or a vindictive magistrate, the whole force of colonial rule seems to have conspired against the Kelly clan. Carey wants us to feel that Ned becomes who he is on compulsion, that he is driven to live outside the law by the malign servants of a corrupt system. Our sympathy is put to its ultimate test when a police task force is dispatched to kill Ned, his brother Dan and their two friends -- to wit, the Kelly gang -- and instead finds itself caught in a bloody ambush at Stringybark Creek, a ''day of horror,'' as Ned describes it, by the end of which ''my skin were sour with death.''
Again, Carey weights Ned's words with such remorse that one feels a kind of saintliness is being bestowed upon him: we have seen him as devoted son, loyal friend, passionate husband, proud Irishman -- now, he's a tender killer. Once he turns Robin Hood and raises a rebel band of farmers (''The British Empire had supplied me with no shortage of candidates these was men who had had their leases denied for no other crime than being our friends . . . men with sons in gaol men who witnessed their hard won land taken up by squatters''), it becomes impossible for us not to saddle up and ride with him to his terminus as tragic martyr.
And we do so very willingly. Whatever one's (slight) misgivings about its status as a ''true history,'' the book's power as a narrative is nearly overwhelming. The twang of Ned's untutored but vibrant prose would be hypnotic in itself, yet Carey adapts it to a series of set pieces -- Ned's rescue of the drowning boy, a boxing match, his first meeting with the woman who will become his wife, the ambush, even the small drama of felling a tree -- that are as gripping as any you could wish to read. His control of dialogue is similarly impressive, whether it be droll or deadpan or just plain laconic. Nor is it simply that Carey has immersed himself in the texture and language of late-19th-century rural Australia. More than this, he has transformed sepia legend into brilliant, even violent, color, and turned a distant myth into warm flesh and blood. Packed with incident, alive with comedy and pathos, ''True History of the Kelly Gang'' contains pretty much everything you could ask of a novel. It is an adjectival wonder.
Anthony Quinn is film critic for The Independent in London.

Link:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0DE1DF1F38F934A35752C0A9679C8B63&sec=&pagewanted=print

Attitudes towards Irish Immigration | Angelie Hobson

This is an article that talks about the Irish Immagrant in Australian during the time. It is written by Kerry Edwards. The link is below. http://members.optushome.com.au/gke/Clan/Rally2002/Attitudes.html

Robin Hood of the Outback | Shane Muir

Quinn, Anthony. "Robin Hood of the Outback." The New York Times on the Web. 7 Jan. 2001. 3 Oct. 2006. http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/01/07/reviews/010107.07quinnt.html?_r=2&oref=slogin

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